STRUDEL ($TRDL) AMA @CryptoStarship π Recap
Token: $TRDL π
The Strudel is the first one-way, trustless bridge linking Bitcoin and Ethereum.
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cosmo_Strudel
Telegram: https://t.me/Strudel_offical
Website: https://strudel.finance/
Medium: https://strudelfinance.medium.com/
Dextools: https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x29b0aa11de97f6d5a3293d980990e820bda5fbab
Summary: π
Price: 0.611
Mcap: ~$600k
Holders: ~259
Circulation supply: ~1 mil
Circulation supply: 1,266,287 TRDL
Working Product: Yes
Community: Very Engaged, 100% of Liquidity is provided by the Community.
Competition: REN and WBTC (500mil and 1bil caps respectively)
Advantages: Completely and forever trustless, ERC-20 compatible, flash loan up to 21m BTC, Community governed
Team: Experienced Developers ( Keno develops for Sushi ) and Nerd Quarter Founders
Relevant Info: π°
$TRDL: https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x29b0aa11de97f6d5a3293d980990e820bda5fbab
vBTC: https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0xcfdcd696dde5df39f569807c6934e6ba97cebb8a
You can buy LPs with one click using these links:
Strudel/ETH LP
https://app.zerion.io/market/asset/UNI-V2-0x29b0aa11de97f6d5a3293d980990e820bda5fbab
vBTC/ETH LP
https://app.zerion.io/market/asset/UNI-V2-0xcfdcd696dde5df39f569807c6934e6ba97cebb8a
You can stake the Lps here
strudel.finance/farms
Telegram AMA Conversation Recap: π
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:02]
Alright Starship, we have the pleasure of having here @Ataxia1 , and we will talk about Strudel today. I will mute the chat now and start the AMA π be sure to check that pdf above as it gives a good roundup of the project ππ»
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:03]
Hey Ataxia, Welcome aboard !
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:03]
Hello Pilot, nice to finally be in the starship
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:03]
We had kept a seat for you πΊ
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:04]
[In reply to Ataxia]
already strapped lmao
Oriental, [29.01.21 14:04]
[In reply to Ataxia]
Good to have You here Yoda!
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:04]
So letβs jump right into business, what is Strudel, and what does it plan to achieve for those not familiar ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:04]
Allright
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:05]
So strudel us the first trustless bridge for BTC to the ethereum blockchain
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:05]
So. What is a bridge⦠a bridge is a protocol that brings coins from other chains into ethereum in order for them to be used in DeFi
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:06]
Most bridges currently available are NOT trustless
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:06]
meaning that you trust that the people safeguarding them are not going to take them away
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:07]
now, Although there is a small risk of something happening, there still is a risk that the value of the BTC being held is big enough that the people holding them decide to take them away
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:07]
basically rugpulling the bitcoins from underneath the wrapper
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:08]
So you see that as a uncomfortable risk for projects like wbtc or REN ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:08]
Yeah, And I dont advocate for not using or avoiding those projects, they have gone to great lenghts to secure those bitcoins
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:09]
but there are many bitcoins that havent been wrapped yet (actually the vast majority) so having a diversified risk profile as to the type of wrappers available is super important
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:09]
So the goal is just to do that bridge in a safer and most decentralized way ?
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:09]
I see very good
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:09]
much like how the failure of tether is less of a risk now than a few years back because there is a variety of stablecoins available
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:09]
[In reply to Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ]
yes, the strudel protocol removes this βcounterparty riskβ
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:09]
but you cant ever do away with all risks
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:10]
so its replaced with βmarket riskβ
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:10]
basically the market not getting to the peg
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:11]
Still sounds like a more fair option
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:11]
Besides the bigger players, are there any smaller projects attempting the same, and where do you stand market cap wise ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:11]
we are the smallest by far i believe
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:11]
ren is like 500m Mcap right now
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:11]
wBTC has about 1.3b AUM but no governance token
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:12]
and thereβs other trustless protocols such as tBTC but they achieve that by overcollateralizing the bitcoins which is very capital inefficient
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:12]
theyβre also much higher mcap than us but im not sure what it is rn
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:12]
its several M for sure
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:12]
we stand at 700k mcap not counting the bonded developerβs tokens
Oriental, [29.01.21 14:13]
[In reply to Ataxia]
Let that sink in for a bit ;)
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:14]
Fantastic, plenty of market for an alternative product like you guys.
Great, so talking about bonded developer tokens, what is the current supply, total supply and all the relevant tokenomics ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:14]
its 1.250k
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:14]
dev has got 250k which he is vesting
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:15]
Until when ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:15]
heβs open to claiming his share as the community sees fit since heβs in no need to do so since heβs now a core sushi dev
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:15]
his worry is that he is going to be dilluted over time
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:16]
also we dont want him to be a huge governance vote either because it would be too much power
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:16]
so we have to find a middle ground
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:16]
I saw 0xMaxi in your discord, that was pleasant to see. You talking about Keno correct ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:16]
yeah
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:17]
he started collaborating with sushi to find a lending solution for vBTC and ended up becoming a core dev working now on Bento box
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:17]
thats going to let us do what he initially was looking for
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:17]
both for vBTC and gTRDL i believe
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:18]
So we got 1mil circulating supply, for easy maths. A full Doxed team, and the lead dev is a top guy. Very good
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:20]
:)
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:22]
So most of the development has been complete, I see now more farms, you guys striving for better governance, and you The Nerd Quarter basically joined the team to complement the Devs skills and give the push that it was missing on this good ideia, is that about right ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:22]
Yeah, the farms you see there are discontinued
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:23]
the governance interface is ready check it out at gov.strudel.finance
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:23]
we are planning to do the lending thing i mentioned, a website redisign to include the governance portal, etc and clean it up a bit more
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:23]
iβd like to announce a vBTC icon contest right now
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:23]
for 1000 TRDL
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:24]
we want an icon that is closer to the BTC brand so its easier to do the peg
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:24]
700$ ππ» @stickbro1
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:24]
I tagged our stickers master, she might be up for the challenge ;)
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:25]
Who did the design of the website and pdf ? Looks neat ππ»
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:26]
the pdf was done by @xatoshi99
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:26]
the original website was done by kenoβs original team
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:26]
weβre doing a bit of a v2
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:28]
Very good, is most of current liquidity being provided by community ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:29]
yes, like 100% of it
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:29]
i mean I lp too but weβre all in the same bin
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:29]
no VCs or whatever
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:30]
it was litreally dead a week ago and all that liquidity is from new people joining
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:30]
Very good, so a fully community oriented ππ»
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:30]
yeah im pushing for this meme of
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:30]
I saw the GME chart comparison, it looked interesting π
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:30]
keepers of the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:30]
yeah thats what made me try to revive it
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:30]
it really just pegs by the will of the community
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
thereβs only 8 vBTC right now
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
so to fully peg the whole thing you only need like 250k
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
and nobody to sell for a while
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
while more people lp
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
if enough people LP then people can swap their vBTC at the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:31]
and its secured
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:32]
just this crew, 250$ a pop
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:32]
pegs the whole system
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:32]
but they all need to pitch in
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:33]
So that is the point at which the vbtc achieves its real value ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:33]
when it pegs
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:33]
then what happens is that it is going to be a bit past the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:33]
until someone mints a new one
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:33]
and then the strudel protocol secured an extra vBTC forever
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
the arber can instantly swap to wBTC and do it again for more profit
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
locking another bitcoin
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
whenever you get enough bitcoins together is like a chest full of coins
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
so the peg is solidified even more
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
then we got plenty of vBTC to be used for lending and other liquidity pools such as CRV
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:34]
which can set us at the peg
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:35]
I see, so when you achieve that level, the βsystem β is pretty kickstarted and should more easily sustain itself .
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:36]
yeah and also i think the hardest part is to get that initial kickstart we did a la GME
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:36]
then its about maintaining the community alive
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:36]
which then spreads
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:36]
# holders go up
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:36]
and then its harder to unpeg the thing
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:36]
[ Photo ]
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:37]
I see now the trdl rewards the biggest
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:39]
What are we looking at currently ? And best way to enter the ecosystem is to mint some vbtc and then pool it ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:40]
not until we get to the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:40]
the safest investment is to pool vBTC/ETH and use the yield rewards to keep buying vBTC
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:40]
that alone will create constant buying pressure to peg it quickly
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:41]
once its pegged yeah, minting vBTC and LPing is a great idea
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:41]
or selling for wBTC, claiming BTC and minting more vBTC
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:42]
eventually we want most people to have a nice incentive to be pooled on the LPs either vBTC or TRDL
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:43]
I see, so at 250k of vbtc converted we shall expect the price to be achieving close to its current value, or am I missing something ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:43]
no no
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:43]
250k$ USD
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:43]
or rather
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:43]
the vBTC LP has to be 500k deep in order to be at the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:43]
if every current vBTC was on the LP
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:44]
it would atually be 500$ per person to peg using 1000 people
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:45]
Yeah thatβs what I meant, as I see the price now at 20k and was wondering how was that going to play out.
When someone makes the conversion, you guys are basically market buying it in vbtc and distributing strudel rewards, is that right ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:45]
no
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
we mint a new vBTC using the bridge
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
and burn a BTC on the BTC chain
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
now the $TRDL protocol holds an extra BTC forever
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
and the circ increases by 1
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
if that guy sells his btc and the pool is deep enough so that the slippage is not bad he can get a wBTC for his trouble
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:46]
unwrap it
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:47]
and repeat
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:47]
that would make the price go to or below the peg so the arb closes
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:47]
and someone would buy it under the peg to add liquidity
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:49]
I see, that makes more sense. Guess what I was trying to understand is how we were getting to the current vbtc value ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:49]
the current price is just a formula of the eth and the vBTC on the pool
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:49]
you buy more vBTC > more eth less vBTC price goes up
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:49]
closer to the peg
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
enough people do that and it pegs
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
you keep doing that and you create the arb
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
if nothing happens you keep buying so the arb delta is bigger
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
there arent any more vBTC anyways
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
so eventually this can go to say 100k per vBTC
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:50]
So itβs not much relevant until the peg. It basically tell us that we are kind of half the way correct ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
until someone decides it pegs
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
[In reply to Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ]
indeed
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:50]
Got it ππ»
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:50]
[In reply to Ataxia]
decides to burn the BTC i mean
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:51]
we can force them by holding and just buying more
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:51]
and once you bring a BTC into the strudel, it cannot go out
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:51]
strudel holders win
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:51]
and since strudels are being yielded to farmer
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:52]
if they just agree to buy vBTC with their strudels
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:52]
100k BTC
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:52]
before anything changes
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:52]
So we need another 250k raised to make the first cross over to a new and better decentralized system ππ» how do you project the value of strudel to grow after that ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:53]
well it should be a 20m project if we manage to get a decent ammount of bitcoins minted per week
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:53]
easily
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:53]
that puts us at around 17$ per strudel
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:53]
counting kenoβs
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:54]
Nice, I like the power of your network, and having sushi devs aboard definitely helps, and having this associated development.
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:54]
yeah lots of use cases for the thing
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:55]
I believe once this first hurdle is passed, and the system is going, newer holders can sure come more easily, as itβs proven working.
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:56]
Who audited the code ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:56]
[In reply to Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ]
https://github.com/strudel-finance/monorepo
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:56]
hereβs the code
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:57]
i dont think it has been audited but it has been running for quite a bit without anyone being able to exploit it
Ataxia, [29.01.21 14:57]
and it was made by 2 very senior solidity devs
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:58]
So itβs all open, I like it. Yeah I saw both are very experienced
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 14:59]
Whatβs the marketing plans going forward, I see the ama with infinity right next, then how do you guys plan to tackle this ?
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:00]
You can talk with @xatoshi99 about that, if you may
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:00]
i want to take a break b4 the next one ahaha
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:00]
but if you have any more qs for me im happy to oblige
Oriental, [29.01.21 15:01]
[In reply to Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ]
Infinity after. Bullrun gravano next week
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:01]
also tiktok
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:01]
weβre including that wsb narrative into our content
Oriental, [29.01.21 15:01]
Some serious power + tiktok
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:01]
You went over the key things. I guess when people understand how things work, itβs pretty straight forward. And you all seem to be doing a good job with the branding ππ»
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:01]
let @xatoshi99 have a few words need to admin him
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:02]
Will do
Ataxia, [29.01.21 15:02]
cool stuff man, thanks again for having me
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:03]
@xatoshi99 you on the line and nice design
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:03]
Hey thanks for having me on
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:04]
[In reply to Ataxia]
My pleasure, and thanks for explaining the technicalities ππ»
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:04]
Yeah , so moving a bit from tokenomics and onto marketing and exposure
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:04]
were working on a V2 for the website that will allow for a better user experience.
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:05]
We currently have 5 people on the team ranging from animators , designers and copywrighters.
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:05]
that will allow us to get some organic reach on social media platforms
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:06]
and try to get some mainstream traction.
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:07]
yeah I like what I am seeing so far, itβs good to brand yourself as the βcoolβ decentralized option. And canβt go wrong with an astronaut either π¨π»βπ
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:10]
Iβm out of questions, I consider the team high potential and the idea relevant and with a possible good fit on the market when it starts to gain traction. Pushing strings on the sushi crew would definitely help as well ππ»
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:10]
[In reply to Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ]
Thanks really excited for the community to see what we have in store in the coming days.
Xavier Vera, [29.01.21 15:11]
Thank you for having me on here really enjoyed the conversation.
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:11]
The tokenomics and current liquidity make it good price action wise, so seing a Strong community pushing this forward could be interesting as well
Crypto Pilot π¨π»βππ, [29.01.21 15:12]
My pleasure, thanks again and keep up the good work, i also look forward to see the progress ππ»
I will open the chat, and maybe there might be more questions from the Starship squad.
END
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